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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.inspiredstartup.com/real-estate-thoughts-part-deux/comment-page-1/#comment-12881</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 06:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and the most important question, again I apologize for being insensitive. Now that prices are set to plummet again after 1.1.2011 at Olive 8  do you regret your purchase yet? (Don't feel bad, I ask myself "do you regret it yet?" about paying for ivy league grad school ;) My answer is "not yet", but I'm sure I will...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and the most important question, again I apologize for being insensitive. Now that prices are set to plummet again after 1.1.2011 at Olive 8  do you regret your purchase yet? (Don&#8217;t feel bad, I ask myself &#8220;do you regret it yet?&#8221; about paying for ivy league grad school <img src='http://www.inspiredstartup.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> My answer is &#8220;not yet&#8221;, but I&#8217;m sure I will&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.inspiredstartup.com/real-estate-thoughts-part-deux/comment-page-1/#comment-12880</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 06:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andy,
I just discovered your blog today because I was considering buying a condo at olive 8 now that they have announced this "price change" after new years 1.1.2011 
I too like the idea of the convenience and location but I am sure I will not buy a condo because I cannot rationalize paying dues. I know there is no way I will spend that much on home maintenance. 
Anyway, to get to my point. Please don't take this the wrong way, I think your blog is great and I was developing a full on "mind crush" for you until I read this post. Maybe I'm cynical but my first impression was that Olive 8 paid you off to buy a condo and blog about it, considering the fact that you're infamous post from 2009 was bad publicity for them. Perhaps I'm giving you too much credit, maybe your blog could not be influential enough for them to care, but I'm curious: how much did they pay you?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andy,<br />
I just discovered your blog today because I was considering buying a condo at olive 8 now that they have announced this &#8220;price change&#8221; after new years 1.1.2011<br />
I too like the idea of the convenience and location but I am sure I will not buy a condo because I cannot rationalize paying dues. I know there is no way I will spend that much on home maintenance.<br />
Anyway, to get to my point. Please don&#8217;t take this the wrong way, I think your blog is great and I was developing a full on &#8220;mind crush&#8221; for you until I read this post. Maybe I&#8217;m cynical but my first impression was that Olive 8 paid you off to buy a condo and blog about it, considering the fact that you&#8217;re infamous post from 2009 was bad publicity for them. Perhaps I&#8217;m giving you too much credit, maybe your blog could not be influential enough for them to care, but I&#8217;m curious: how much did they pay you?!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.inspiredstartup.com/real-estate-thoughts-part-deux/comment-page-1/#comment-12528</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 10:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks  about, I admit that I get attached a bit to property and sometimes unable to make the rational market decision.

I think more experienced agents might be able to expand the conversation more, but at the end of the day, you should not allow yourself to be badgered into making a deal because you feel indebted to them. 
good Job and nicely done  your works.

John

Thanks
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&lt;a href="http://mls.fastrealestate.netl" rel="nofollow"&gt; mls listings&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks  about, I admit that I get attached a bit to property and sometimes unable to make the rational market decision.</p>
<p>I think more experienced agents might be able to expand the conversation more, but at the end of the day, you should not allow yourself to be badgered into making a deal because you feel indebted to them.<br />
good Job and nicely done  your works.</p>
<p>John</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
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<p><a href="http://mls.fastrealestate.netl" rel="nofollow"> mls listings</a></p>
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		<title>By: Renegotiating and Walking Back to Olive8 &#8226; Seattle Bubble</title>
		<link>http://www.inspiredstartup.com/real-estate-thoughts-part-deux/comment-page-1/#comment-12419</link>
		<dc:creator>Renegotiating and Walking Back to Olive8 &#8226; Seattle Bubble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] follow-up would be worth posting as well.As it turns out, local internet entrepreneur Andy Liu didn&#8217;t end up walking away from Olive8 after all.One of my more popular blog posts was on my decision to walk away from Olive 8. I was [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] follow-up would be worth posting as well.As it turns out, local internet entrepreneur Andy Liu didn&#8217;t end up walking away from Olive8 after all.One of my more popular blog posts was on my decision to walk away from Olive 8. I was [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
		<link>http://www.inspiredstartup.com/real-estate-thoughts-part-deux/comment-page-1/#comment-12412</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 06:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, great post about your real estate experience. I have been an agent for about a year now and coming from a younger generation, I really wonder and question the value that a real estate agent provides considering the advent of new technologies (ie Redfin). I have now hung up my real estate license and focusing on how the internet can bring more transparency to the real estate industry. Just out of curiosity, how did you find your real estate agent and do you see real estate agents moving to a more fixed rate or "À la carte" system?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, great post about your real estate experience. I have been an agent for about a year now and coming from a younger generation, I really wonder and question the value that a real estate agent provides considering the advent of new technologies (ie Redfin). I have now hung up my real estate license and focusing on how the internet can bring more transparency to the real estate industry. Just out of curiosity, how did you find your real estate agent and do you see real estate agents moving to a more fixed rate or &#8220;À la carte&#8221; system?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 01:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I personally think real estate agent should be paid a fixed fees, instead of the fat commission.  The same goes for mortgage brokers.

Regarding use real estate as a hedge, I tend to think real estate is different from hard asset such as gold or oil.

I think it's inevitable that the Fed will need to raise interest rate sometime down the road.  As interest rate go up, I think the demand for housing will go down, which will drive down the housing price. This might be partially offset by people's investment in real estate in fear of a major currency collapse. But, I'm afraid that the downward pressure on housing price due to raising interesting rate will be more severe than the impact of US currency collapse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I personally think real estate agent should be paid a fixed fees, instead of the fat commission.  The same goes for mortgage brokers.</p>
<p>Regarding use real estate as a hedge, I tend to think real estate is different from hard asset such as gold or oil.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s inevitable that the Fed will need to raise interest rate sometime down the road.  As interest rate go up, I think the demand for housing will go down, which will drive down the housing price. This might be partially offset by people&#8217;s investment in real estate in fear of a major currency collapse. But, I&#8217;m afraid that the downward pressure on housing price due to raising interesting rate will be more severe than the impact of US currency collapse.</p>
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		<title>By: Niki Scevak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niki Scevak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 21:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, there's no doubt that you bought at a time that is better than one year ago but I don't think we've reached the bottom at all.

A site you might like to keep an eye on is Altos Research. For Seattle/Portland specifically take a look at http://blog.altosresearch.com/year-end-2009-trends-pacific-northwest-housing-market/

Your comments around the US dollar and hard assets is fine but they will likely be easily outweighed by higher unemployment and less labor participation (people want to work full time but can only get a part time job). That means more foreclosures and less rental demand.

Additionally, there is a tremendous amount of 'shadow inventory'. That is, homes that aren't paying their mortgage but the banks, because they are so busy processing other delinquent homes, haven't even foreclosed on. That can be anywhere from 6-12 months of inventory in some places at the moment.

Seattle and Portland are growing cities and any population growth supports rising home prices but that fact is getting out-weighed by the above at least at the moment.

In the end, you bought because you needed to live somewhere and it will always be a personal utility decision but I wouldn't be surprised if prices go down from here in the short term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, there&#8217;s no doubt that you bought at a time that is better than one year ago but I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ve reached the bottom at all.</p>
<p>A site you might like to keep an eye on is Altos Research. For Seattle/Portland specifically take a look at <a href="http://blog.altosresearch.com/year-end-2009-trends-pacific-northwest-housing-market/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.altosresearch.com/year-end-2009-trends-pacific-northwest-housing-market/</a></p>
<p>Your comments around the US dollar and hard assets is fine but they will likely be easily outweighed by higher unemployment and less labor participation (people want to work full time but can only get a part time job). That means more foreclosures and less rental demand.</p>
<p>Additionally, there is a tremendous amount of &#8217;shadow inventory&#8217;. That is, homes that aren&#8217;t paying their mortgage but the banks, because they are so busy processing other delinquent homes, haven&#8217;t even foreclosed on. That can be anywhere from 6-12 months of inventory in some places at the moment.</p>
<p>Seattle and Portland are growing cities and any population growth supports rising home prices but that fact is getting out-weighed by the above at least at the moment.</p>
<p>In the end, you bought because you needed to live somewhere and it will always be a personal utility decision but I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if prices go down from here in the short term.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, like you, like Redfin's model. However, it doesn't fit all types of buyers, much less, Sellers. That being said, I am saddened to see that the agents you were working with gave you poor advice, and that you felt you needed to control the direction of deal. That's really sad to me... I think a lot of agents are out there for exactly what you said, to get the deal done. I operate a bit differently in that respect, but the way I operate is more about giving buyers and sellers the right information to make the right decision, for them, not for my pocketbook. In fact, I know my pocketbook could be a lot stronger if I just pushed buyers over the edge... not going to happen, not today, not tomorrow, not next year. 

Redfin I love for the information they provide. However, the information they provide tends to be more statistical rather than experiential. When negotiating on a new construction condo, that information can be fantastic. When buying your dream home, not so much so. There will always be a place for different models, but I don't think Real Estate agents are going to gone like a fart in the wind , at least, not the good ones. 

I'm glad to read your meanderings... Saybrook is an interesting investment, but it seems you sheltered yourself a bit with the joint partnership... nicely done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, like you, like Redfin&#8217;s model. However, it doesn&#8217;t fit all types of buyers, much less, Sellers. That being said, I am saddened to see that the agents you were working with gave you poor advice, and that you felt you needed to control the direction of deal. That&#8217;s really sad to me&#8230; I think a lot of agents are out there for exactly what you said, to get the deal done. I operate a bit differently in that respect, but the way I operate is more about giving buyers and sellers the right information to make the right decision, for them, not for my pocketbook. In fact, I know my pocketbook could be a lot stronger if I just pushed buyers over the edge&#8230; not going to happen, not today, not tomorrow, not next year. </p>
<p>Redfin I love for the information they provide. However, the information they provide tends to be more statistical rather than experiential. When negotiating on a new construction condo, that information can be fantastic. When buying your dream home, not so much so. There will always be a place for different models, but I don&#8217;t think Real Estate agents are going to gone like a fart in the wind , at least, not the good ones. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad to read your meanderings&#8230; Saybrook is an interesting investment, but it seems you sheltered yourself a bit with the joint partnership&#8230; nicely done.</p>
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		<title>By: Real Estate/Buisness News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Real Estate Thoughts Part Deux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Real Estate/Buisness News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Real Estate Thoughts Part Deux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 12:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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