Comments on: Relax immigration and improve the economy http://www.inspiredstartup.com/relax-immigration-and-improve-the-economy/ Taking your startup to the next level Sun, 01 Aug 2010 07:47:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Purposeinc http://www.inspiredstartup.com/relax-immigration-and-improve-the-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-12386 Purposeinc Sat, 19 Dec 2009 11:04:01 +0000 http://www.inspiredstartup.com/?p=295#comment-12386 I can't agree more. You and I both are descendants from people who come from far away from the pacific coast of north America. The best people who have ever worked for me know what it is like to have starvation right around the corner. I have enough experience myself at that to appreciate it. Most Americans I find have lost their zest for working and do it begrudgingly to get what they want. I love the guy (myself included) who love to work for the things we create. Give the job to the guy who will work the hardest, and produce the most. Let's fill our country up with hard working, ethical, creative, bright folks, who are willing to do whatever it takes to succeed. The country that can attract those people will always win long term. I can’t agree more.

You and I both are descendants from people who come from far away from the pacific coast of north America. The best people who have ever worked for me know what it is like to have starvation right around the corner. I have enough experience myself at that to appreciate it.

Most Americans I find have lost their zest for working and do it begrudgingly to get what they want. I love the guy (myself included) who love to work for the things we create.

Give the job to the guy who will work the hardest, and produce the most. Let’s fill our country up with hard working, ethical, creative, bright folks, who are willing to do whatever it takes to succeed.

The country that can attract those people will always win long term.

]]> By: Dave http://www.inspiredstartup.com/relax-immigration-and-improve-the-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-12345 Dave Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:12:08 +0000 http://www.inspiredstartup.com/?p=295#comment-12345 Two thoughts. If your company is that strapped for talent, you can move the whole operation to India. Lots of talent and everything else is cheaper as well. Secondly, we already have relaxed immigration. Walk the halls of Microsoft. Half, if not more, of the employees have immigrated to the U.S. They go to MS because they provide free services to get a work visa and permanent resident status. Sorry, but all those cheap laborers are not going to flock to a shoestring startup with the risk of being shipped back when their visa ends. Instead they'd rather crank away on pointless projects like Windows Mobile, but have a better chance of staying here. Two thoughts. If your company is that strapped for talent, you can move the whole operation to India. Lots of talent and everything else is cheaper as well.

Secondly, we already have relaxed immigration. Walk the halls of Microsoft. Half, if not more, of the employees have immigrated to the U.S. They go to MS because they provide free services to get a work visa and permanent resident status. Sorry, but all those cheap laborers are not going to flock to a shoestring startup with the risk of being shipped back when their visa ends. Instead they’d rather crank away on pointless projects like Windows Mobile, but have a better chance of staying here.

]]> By: Alfonso http://www.inspiredstartup.com/relax-immigration-and-improve-the-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-12340 Alfonso Thu, 03 Dec 2009 03:47:01 +0000 http://www.inspiredstartup.com/?p=295#comment-12340 i think relaxing immigration or doing something like the startup visa is a good thing, if you want to hire locally. but what if you want to organize a distributed team? (think Basecamp). does it really matter then? i think relaxing immigration or doing something like the startup visa is a good thing, if you want to hire locally. but what if you want to organize a distributed team? (think Basecamp). does it really matter then?

]]> By: Brian http://www.inspiredstartup.com/relax-immigration-and-improve-the-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-12339 Brian Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:14:52 +0000 http://www.inspiredstartup.com/?p=295#comment-12339 Andy, you should check out Paul Kedrosky and Brad Feld's op-ed in today's Wall Street Journal: "Start-up Visas Can Jump-Start the Economy" http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704402404574525772299940870.html Some interesting thoughts to consider and debate. Andy,

you should check out Paul Kedrosky and Brad Feld’s op-ed in today’s Wall Street Journal:

“Start-up Visas Can Jump-Start the Economy”

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704402404574525772299940870.html

Some interesting thoughts to consider and debate.

]]> By: J http://www.inspiredstartup.com/relax-immigration-and-improve-the-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-12336 J Wed, 02 Dec 2009 07:54:48 +0000 http://www.inspiredstartup.com/?p=295#comment-12336 Andy, you just wrote what I always thought. I think bringing in talented people would benefit any country. If you imagine the countries of Earth as human parts, and the US as the brain (meaning they only think of ideas and make plans while others execute the actual work, like China/India/etc. currently does), it would make sense to bring the best and brightest in (which is what the country's been doing for over a hundred years now). The politicians enact these laws for people who just come into the country and do nothing (hanging on welfare, begging, crime, etc.), but unfortunately many good and smart people are being refused entry automatically, without much extensive checks (to an extent, this will actually allow in only those who really want to- and are smart enough to- immigrate or come for work). Another option is to organize an efficient way to do everything remotely... Andy, you just wrote what I always thought. I think bringing in talented people would benefit any country. If you imagine the countries of Earth as human parts, and the US as the brain (meaning they only think of ideas and make plans while others execute the actual work, like China/India/etc. currently does), it would make sense to bring the best and brightest in (which is what the country’s been doing for over a hundred years now).
The politicians enact these laws for people who just come into the country and do nothing (hanging on welfare, begging, crime, etc.), but unfortunately many good and smart people are being refused entry automatically, without much extensive checks (to an extent, this will actually allow in only those who really want to- and are smart enough to- immigrate or come for work).
Another option is to organize an efficient way to do everything remotely…

]]> By: Mark http://www.inspiredstartup.com/relax-immigration-and-improve-the-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-12334 Mark Wed, 02 Dec 2009 05:40:54 +0000 http://www.inspiredstartup.com/?p=295#comment-12334 I agree with you, Andy. Plus, from a public policy perspective, we need more people who are actually working to pay for all of the benefits we've promised to our growing number of retirees! I agree with you, Andy. Plus, from a public policy perspective, we need more people who are actually working to pay for all of the benefits we’ve promised to our growing number of retirees!

]]> By: Davis Bae http://www.inspiredstartup.com/relax-immigration-and-improve-the-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-12333 Davis Bae Wed, 02 Dec 2009 05:23:20 +0000 http://www.inspiredstartup.com/?p=295#comment-12333 You might want to read the stats from my blog relating immigration and innovation. Its shocking. www.globalimmigrationblog.com You might want to read the stats from my blog relating immigration and innovation. Its shocking.

http://www.globalimmigrationblog.com

]]> By: Brien http://www.inspiredstartup.com/relax-immigration-and-improve-the-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-12332 Brien Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:11:23 +0000 http://www.inspiredstartup.com/?p=295#comment-12332 Andy, with all due respect, you're an idiot. ;) j/k. i've always felt that out-sourcing is good for the economy in nearly all respects. Open competition is always good! Sure there are a lot of buggy makers who were out of jobs when the car came along, but that doesn't mean we should stifle innovation! let the market correct itself! Andy, with all due respect, you’re an idiot. ;)

j/k. i’ve always felt that out-sourcing is good for the economy in nearly all respects. Open competition is always good! Sure there are a lot of buggy makers who were out of jobs when the car came along, but that doesn’t mean we should stifle innovation! let the market correct itself!

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